Larry Wilkinson

Hell yea, I'm in...................

You guys are killing me. I would love to do it. But I want be home until the 4th of July thru that weekend.

Ready

I agree that VC looks a lot better than 2D. I am just saying that having to press a button to look around to scan some of my instruments is not my thing. As in real life I like to tilt my head down and scan them. So I decide to go with dual monitors. Yes it is a preference. But after 20 plus years of flying and only using flight sim for 4 or 5 years it is hard for me to view it thru VC. I was only trying to state that being a real life pilot has been the driving factor in my decision. Also my goal is to purchase all the radios and build a dash/panel and make a simulated 172. Possibly purchasing a projector to project it on a wall to give more of a life size view.

Thank You, I read that Twin Otter does not have 2d panels. I know most high end aircraft designers are leaving 2d panels out, but my sim set up is designed for a hands on cockpit with one display for 2d gauges and one large display for outside viewing. Being a real life pilot I prefer this set up. Just not a VC kinda guy. But it seems I will missing out on some great aircraft.

Does your twin otter come with 2D Panels as well as virtual cockpit? I am interested and purchasing both the scenery and plane. Thanks

I miss most events due because I work out of town and only home on weekends. Then the Sunday events are usually in the afternoon when I getting in my cross country time in the real thing. I would like to see an PP event every once in a while on a Sat or Sun night. Like the old saying, you can please some of the people some of the time, but not all the people all the time. I am sure someone will eventually come up with a new and exciting event that will bring pilots and controllers together for a night of fun. So don't give up on throwing out the ideas. See ya in the air, 773BA, Formaly 9188G, They went and replaced my favorite airplane.

Just a note. San Jose's International is KSJC, the event posted says KJSC.

I am with you on that, sounds great. I hope I have not offended anyone here. I am very passionate about aviation to the extreme. To the point that not only do I fly Full Scale, I also fly RC planes and Helicopters along with flying my simulator almost daily. I was just looking at nights that there were no events or controllers, that making none controlled time more realistic. If you fly in real life it is fun to be at your local field and having to space yourself when taking off or staying in the pattern calling downwind and base then final with a plane on final in front of you and one behind you. Thought it would be nice to visit some of the fields that members are appart of. In real life you meet a pilot at your field start talking, then he invites you to his field. Then off you go the next week you visit him. As stated above there are a lot of hours left in the week that would not interfere with other events or peak hours. I guess it is hard to explain the thought or feeling behind it if you are not a real pilot. That being said, as always I am really looking forward to tonights Regional Circuit, Love Alaska. Thanks Bulletman70

Chicken or the Egg.........In aviation history show me where ATC came first then they started flying airplanes. You must lean a little more towards ATC than flying. Which is ok, as agreed without ATC it would not be as much fun. But in earlier statements on these forums people talk about making BVA as realistic as possible. When training to get your pilot certificate, learning how to use unicom at non controlled airports is part of the same section as ATC. Part of flying in the real world is knowing what to do in all situations. That means knowing how to enter, exit an airport and respond to other pilots, when there is no ATC. Most of the pilots in here would not even know where to go and look for info on these small airports of of there arrival's or departure's other than Airnav, unless you are a real pilot. This is a critical part of aviation and an event catering around it would teach these proceedure. Most of you only know what you have learned from listening to or gathering info from airports like KBOS. Which are very busy airports. But there are controlled airports that you may fly into that may only have one controller and no specific departures or arrivals. All a controller would need to do is print out a diagram of that airport and get ATIS to know which runways to use. This would also be less stressful training for new controllers. What protocal is followed a Class A and B airports are not used at smaller airports. You dont even have to have clearance at some of these airports. To experience aviation as a whole there is no chicken or egg. You want true realism then you have to look at it as a whole. So being a real pilot with suggestion on how to make this a more realistic server is not an ideal member. To be an ideal member is to have never flown a real airplane.

The flying programs you listed above as good as they are, are geared around professional commercial ATC intergrated flying. My support for your program would be to put a little laid back real general aviation fun in the mix. And yes age does have something to do with it. I am a 20 year GA pilot. I read and understand the english language very well. So in reading all your post I understood this would not interfere with other ATC. I did not need them repeated to me as if I were a kid getting out of line. If you want a more profesional atmoshpere then an adult way of going about it would help. Again all he had to say is there would be ATC staffed tonight and could I support them and reschedule my request. Thats pretty simple. Note that there was not an event schuled tonight and no notification of the amount of controllers to be online. But probably would have notice when I joined multiplayer tonight.

Why don't you fly within the Boston ARTCC tonight? There are at least 6 controllers signed up to control. Check out the ATC Timetable: http://www.bostonvirtualatc.com/dnn/ATC ... fault.aspx In addition, there are two controllers that are training this evening and would really appreciate your traffic. Isn't the whole point: Boston Virtual Air Traffic Control? I'd also like to point out that when Gilles originally posted his ideas for this activity, in viewtopic.php?f=10&t=837 he said, In addition he wrote, I always give some time with ATC when there on. There was not an event scheduled. I could move my sugestion to another night. Understanding this server is about ATC it was discussed to have ATC available at nearby airports. On some none event night, controllers could fill in at one of these airports. This is also about realism and there is more to flying than just ATC. I thought it would be fun to have something for the pilots in here. Since it takes airplanes and pilots for controllers to have something to do. By getting more planes in the air, we then have the need for more controllers. If it is all about ATC and not about flying then as a pilot I should look for a server geared more toward flying. All in all we were just talking about one night here or there. I don't know how old you are, but all you had to do is state that there would be Controllers staffed tonight. I did not need a lecture on rules or policies.

It would be nice to have a specific day and time shown as an event on the main web page. This would allow for more people to know about it and really allow for some realism when there are several other Planes coming and goin at the same time. I will be flying 82J from 8 to 10 eastern tonight Sunday the 12th. So come join in and have some fun. I think controllers can jump in at the nearest control tower, in this case KPNS. So if you want to fly out of or into control airspace to and from the uncontrolled airport it would be cool. Also KMOB (Mobile Alabama) is only a 35 min flight from 82J if controllers want. Both have ILS approaches. I would not mind flying from 82J to one of them shoot an ILS and back to 82J for some T & G's. Learning to go from controller to unicom with airport in sight. Again check out the website for 82J. For an uncontrolled airport it has a tricky entry for and exiting the pattern. Lovin it. Thanks Bulleman70 (9188G)

Sorry I did not get to attend at KCON during your trial. That being said as a RL pilot that fly's out of a lot of small airports using UNICOM, I think this is a great idea. A new event with no ATC. I love it. Just in or out or T & G's. I think it should be a small, one runway airport. This is something we could schedule once a week if no other events hender it. A true fly in. Maybe we can feature a small airport in a region that some of the members live or Real Life pilots fly out of. I fly out of Ferguson (http://www.fergusonairport.com/) 3200 ft runway Grass or Paved. Great idea.