European Getaway?
« on: October 03, 2009, 04:46:12 pm »
Is there a chance we can have a Getaway in Europe? Or even a RC or DJ ?

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Evan Reiter

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Re: European Getaway?
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2009, 06:02:55 pm »
It *might* be in the works... not for several months though. Getting together all those routes and charts won't be easy!


Evan Reiter
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Re: European Getaway?
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2009, 10:07:41 pm »
dont forget ATC phraseology & procedures :)

Re: European Getaway?
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2009, 11:51:41 pm »
This is something that I've gone back and forth with|

I know that we strive for reality and I blieve that that has contributed to our success and I am all for it.  However, when it comes to changing phraseology etc. for ATC, I don't necessarily agree with it.  Even when we are in Canada and the differences of phraseology are minimal, I think it confuses pilots.  Of course, some pilots will know that it is because we are in Canada, but I think alot of pilots are confused as to why all of the sudden their clearence is being read differently ("Cleared to Boston via the Kennedy 1 departure" vs. "Cleared to Boston via the edmonton three flight plan route")  They are either confused by this and or think that the controller is a noob and doesn't know what he is doing.

If we try to do this in Europe (where the differences are greater than that of Canada) I think it will confuse people even more.  In addition, I think it would be an added stress to controllers.  As it is, we (controllers) are going to have to learn new procedures for nearly everything, plus new phraseology?  If the admin. decides to make it that way, then I'll do it and try to have fun, it's just my two cents.

Perhaps a poll is in order?
Erich [email protected]  BVATC Scenery Design and Test Team "

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Evan Reiter

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Re: European Getaway?
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2009, 02:31:27 pm »
Quote from: "biggems1"
Perhaps a poll is in order?
Or just a discussion during our next ATC meeting.


Evan Reiter
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Re: European Getaway?
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2009, 03:08:35 pm »
That works too|  Except I work Sundays so you'll have to introduce my thoughts to the discussion :)
Erich [email protected]  BVATC Scenery Design and Test Team "

Re: European Getaway?
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2009, 04:04:48 am »
Europe sounds great..... especially in those gloomy winter months.   I know much of Germany and the lowland countries still rely heavily on PAR and ASR approaches because of the constant IMC...... Europe would be a good place to test controllers on these procedures.   :D